Fox, Fabregas, Montaldo, Resnick on The Joiner Report
Is the earth’s sea floor in crisis? Are the U.S.’s southern coastal wetlands and wildlife in jeopardy? The Gulf’s oil spill has garnered as much attention in the last 52 days as the war, historical state primaries, and the Blackhawks’ Stanley Cup win. And ‘BP’ has become a common household acronym that can have various meanings for those in the wake of the nation’s worst oil disaster.
The in-depth discussion continues on Friday night when The Joiner Report welcomes noted guests James Fox, Mel Fabregas, Joe Montaldo, and Joseph Resnick.
James Fox is well known for his ufology research and documentary films such as “Out of the Blue,” and the most recent “I Know What I Saw.” However, his attention turned to ‘below the blue’ this week as he reported the grave situation from Grand Isle, Louisiana, to Mel Fabregas around 1:00 a.m. Tuesday. “There is a media blackout. People are being arrested!” Fox said those questioned about the oil spill and present conditions would avoid looking at him and were hesitant to answer any questions for fear of repercussions from officials. He filmed interviews on the streets of New Orleans where residents and tourists vented their anger about the situation and the serious environmental and economical damage occurring with the thousands of barrels of oil gushing daily into the waters of the Gulf of Mexico.
Mel Fabregas, producer and presenter of The Veritas Show, (www.veritasshow.com), immediately uploaded the conversation with Fox. Fabregas said the public response was instant. On Tuesday afternoon, he posted on his website, “Our servers have been jammed all day long. I’m glad that together we can make a difference and circumvent the mainstream mediaopoly.” He stated he will continue to post updates as they are made available from Fox, who is scheduled to be in New Orleans for two weeks of investigation, as well as from other sources who wish to contribute information as it becomes available.
Joe Montaldo is the producer of the UFO Paranormal Radio Network. As he is based in New Orleans, he will have an up close and personal view of events in his state and the effects this tragedy is having on its people and the economical setbacks to come while still recovering from Hurricane Katrina’s devastation.
Dr. Joseph A. Resnick is an accomplished applied scientist, author, electro-mechanical engineer, lecturer, holding 26 patents (12 Classified) with extensive lateral skill sets in medicine, electrical and mechanical engineering, earth and space systems architecture/component design, defense security programs, global communication systems architectures engineering and Military/Homeland strategic defense. He is a recognized expert in strategic defense program design, functioning in various public and private consultancies to both the US Government and Department of Defense.
It’s going to be a banner night on The Joiner Report. The two-hour show begins at 9 p.m. CST, Friday, June 11, www.ufoparanormalradio.homestead.com/Main_Page_version_2.html
Listeners are invited to join the virtual chat room at www.paltalk.com prior to the broadcast.
Talbott Returns to The Joiner Report
All 2009 crop circles evidence is complete. They are real!
This is according to Nancy Talbott, president of the BLT Research Team, Inc., which is composed of several hundred trained field-sampling personnel in the U.S., Canada and Europe. They collect plant and soil samples at crop circle sites for analyses by a number of scientists in various disciplines.
Field reports of the phenomena are published on the web site (www.bltresearch.com). Analyses referenced are from England, The Netherlands, British Columbia, Germany, Australia, Israel as well as the U.S.
BLT is a non-profit, tax-exempt U.S. corporation whose primary purpose is the systematic scientific evaluation of physical evidence recovered in connection with various “anomalous” phenomena—with particular focus on crop circles. Over the last 15 years, various consulting scientists have applied their specific expertise to samples collected from formations around the world.
Ms. Talbott conducts fieldwork in multiple countries in Europe, as well as in the U.S. and Canada, and lectures internationally on a regular basis. She has also represented the BLT Team in numerous TV productions and has been featured in several documentaries on crop circles and other anomalous phenomena.
Join Angelia and Nancy Friday, May 7, 9-11 p.m. CST on UFO Paranormal Radio Network, http://ufoparanormalradio.homestead.com/Main_Page_version_2.html. Listeners are invited to sign up for PalTalk, www. paltalk.com, to participate in the online discussion in the virtual chat room while on the air.
Robert Hastings to be interviewed on The Joiner Report
Veteran researcher 
Robert Hastings has investigated nuclear weapons-related UFO incidents for more than three decades. He has interviewed hundreds of U.S. Air Force personnel who witnessed extraordinary UFO encounters at nuclear weapons sites.
Robert Hastings grew up in a military environment. His father was career USAF until his 1967 retirement. This allowed Hastings to be somewhat knowledgeable of events taking place on military bases. In March 1967, while observing in the radar tower at the Malmstrom Air Force Base, Montana, he witnessed five UFOs being tracked on radar. He said he later learned the “unknown targets” had been maneuvering near ICBM (intercontinental ballistic missile) sites located southeast of the missile base. The experience ultimately led to his research, the UFO-Nukes Connection.
Hastings is a retired laboratory analyst and lectures worldwide on his collection of evidence of official cover-ups on UFOs. Utilizing declassified USAF, FBI and CIA documents, as well as the testimony of Air Force veterans who worked with nukes, Hastings has uncovered a six-decade-long pattern of UFO activity at nuclear weapons laboratories, bomb test sites, weapons storage areas, and ICBM launch facilities. In July 2008, the researcher appeared with three former USAF officers on the Larry King Live show. Officers discussed their involvement in classified UFO incidents. A second LKL appearance was in July 2009.
His book, UFOs and Nukes: Extraordinary Encounters at Nuclear Weapons Sites, received the 2009 UFO Digest Book of the Year award and is available at http://ufohastings.com
On Friday, September 11, 9-10 p.m. (CST), join Angelia and Robert Hastings on “The Joiner Report,” http://ufoparanormalradio.homestead.com.
Lee Roy Gaitan on The Joiner Report
On January 8, 2008, Erath County Precinct 2 Constable Lee Roy Gaitan was in his front yard and glanced up and saw brilliant red orbs hovering in the sky. He called to his wife to come outside, but she dismissed the lights as an airplane. However, his eight-year old son did join his dad, and they witnessed one of the UFO sightings that brought international attention to Stephenville, Texas.
This wasn’t the end of it for Gaitan. There were two additional sightings. “It was Feb. 2 in the early morning hours. I videotaped it for about 40 minutes. It was an object with red, green, and blue lights. I was on U.S Hwy. 377 by Woody’s looking south towards Dublin. It was about a quarter of the size of a full moon. It was several thousand feet up, maybe 4,500 or 5,000 feet up…” This time Gaitan had a camera available. “I zoomed in 168X and you could see it was round and spinning. Something that could not be seen with the naked eye and you could almost see through it. There was what looked like a pyramid or triangle shape on the inside of the thing.”
The third event took place on February 9, and he videoed the object for 10 minutes.
Gaitan was suddenly bombarded by the media. He was interviewed by NBC, FOX, and other national stations as well as local cable news. He has appeared on Larry King Live and numerous headliner radio shows. Internet blogs immediately picked up his report on the paranormal story of the decade. By mid-February, he had logged more than 100 interviews. It was largely due to his credibility and willingness to come forward that other law enforcement members followed his example.
On Friday night, “The Joiner Report” will welcome Lee Roy Gaitan on UFO Paranormal Radio, http://ufoparanormalradio.homestead.com. Listeners are invited to download Paltalk prior to the broadcast to take part in the online chat line during the show, 9-10 p.m. (Central). A direct link to Paltalk is available on this site.
Ricky Sorrells on The Joiner Report
Sorrells has been described by James Fox, documentary film producer, as the most credible witness to a UFO he has ever interviewed. And, he’s interviewed hundreds from high ranking military officials to ordinary citizens. Fox features Sorrells in “I Know What I Saw” the new movie he has recently completed and is currently searching for a venue for release.
Sorrells made international news along with others after the now infamous Stephenville, Texas, mass sighting in January of last year. In mid December of 2007, he sighted an object on his property while deer hunting. It was a mere 300 feet above his head. He shared the experience with his co-workers only to be teased and ridiculed until the first story of the mass sighting appeared in the local paper on January 10, 2008, written by Joiner. Sorrells found himself surrounded by his friends carrying copies of the newspaper and asking, “Is this what you saw?” Sorrells described in detail his experience on the Larry King Show, July 11, 2008. He is the only witness to come forward to have a daytime sighting.
“I started looking at it. There were no bolts, no rivets, no welded seams, it was smooth, it was like a barn gray. It had cones protruding, going up into it, bigger at the bottom, going up to smaller at the top. It remained flat and took off at a 45-degree angle. It took off so fast that if I blinked I would have thought it vanished, but I had my eyes on it, and I know it took off flat at a 45-degree angle.”
Sorrells has been hesitant to give interviews after experiencing strange events on his property, including an unknown visitor in the early morning hours, black helicopters flying low enough to spook his cattle, and a phone call from someone identifying themselves as military advising him to cease discussion about the sightings. Although agreeing to be on the Larry King show at the urging of James Fox, he has opted to remain in the background, giving few interviews.
Friday night on “The Joiner Report” Sorrells has agreed to a rare interview to discuss his experiences and how they changed the life of one small-town citizen.
http://ufoparanormalradio.com, Friday, Aug 7, 9:00-l0:00 p.m. CST.
Noted Reporter, ‘Angelia Joiner’ to Attend San Jose Symposium
By Sherry Boardman
7-19-08
Former Stephenville, Texas, Empire-Tribune newspaper reporter Angelia Joiner will attend the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) 39th International UFO Symposium in San Jose, California, July 24-27.
Her dedication and quest for answers regarding the Texas incident resulted in the Stephenville Lights: A Comprehensive Radar and Witness Report Study, compiled by Glen Schulze, radar analyst, and Robert Powell, the current Director of Research at MUFON. The report is now being picked up by major networks around the world and will be reviewed in depth at the San Jose Symposium.
Joiner garnered fame after reporting the Jan. 8, 2008, sightings of unusual lights over Erath County, Texas. Her factual and straight-forward style of reporting brought accolades from around the world. Invitations to share her experiences as the journalist who “broke the story” have been continual.
She has appeared twice on Larry King Live, was a guest on Coast to Coast AM, interviewed by Dr. Laurie Nadal, The Sixth Sense, and on numerous local and foreign radio and television broadcasts. Among those interviewed by Joiner have been Dr. Lynn Kitei, “The Phoenix Lights, We Are Not Alone,” and Robert Emenegger.
The reporter was invited to serve as a panelist at the National Press Conference following her presentation at the Washington, D.C. Paradigm’s Research Group’s Conference and was a presenter at the Ozark Conference.
Joiner will be available for interviews during the Symposium and a question and answer session following the Press Conference. She may be contacted in advance to schedule individual appointments Thursday night through Saturday morning at: www.stephenvillelights.com, ajoiner@nctv.com.
Radar study supports witnesses in Stephenville
By ANGELIA JOINER
Friday, 11 July 2008
A radar study recently released supports eight witness reports of an unidentified object in Stephenville, Texas, and the surrounding area on January 8, 2008.
Robert Powell, MUFON national research director, and Glen Schulze, retired radar analyst, have labored hundreds of hours analyzing 2.8 million bits of Freedom of Information Act requested raw radar data from five FAA towers between the hours of 4 – 8 p.m. surrounding the Dublin/Stephenville, Texas area.
Dozens of Erath County residents reported seeing an object or lights in the sky at separate locations and the story quickly made national and international news.
The study may make even the most hardnosed skeptic scratch his head.
The report is entitled, Stephenville Lights: A comprehensive radar and witness report, and can be fully downloaded at www.mufon.com.
The unknown object was on a trajectory towards and 10 miles from President Bush’s Crawford Ranch without a required beacon signal seemingly without any military interest.
About two weeks after the first story was publicized in the Stephenville local paper on January 10, Maj. Karl Lewis, spokesman for the Carswell Naval Air Base, said his unit had 10, F-16s in the skies above Erath County after first having said no jets from the base were in the area. Could this be because Lewis knew the information would come out after seeing freedom of information acts filed at his base?
Powell and Schulze tracked those 10 jets without any trouble.
Now, they are scratching their heads wondering how an object without a beacon could apparently fly into Crawford air space without raising military eyebrows.
That is not the only thing that left the two report authors with unanswered questions.
Also, seemingly out of the ‘norm’ was four jets encroaching on civilian air space after deviating from the Brownwood military operating area return path on return runs to the Carswell Naval Air Base. The jets appeared to turn on transponders late in the game, which may have left air traffic controllers and others scrambling to make last minute decisions to keep the air traffic around DFW airport safe after they realized the jets were on radar.
Additionally, two jets traveling to Carswell from an Oklahoma air base made a wide sweep around Comanche, Dublin and Stephenville before landing at the Fort Worth base.
And, what the authors claim could only be an AWACS craft studied the area for the entire four hours in what Powell calls a “race track pattern” sweeping back and forth making 180 degree turns.
To see more on this report watch Larry King Live tonight at 8 p.m. central where the authors will make guest appearances.
Angelia Joiner’s Interview with Dr. Lynne Kitei at the 2008 X-Conference
Written by Angelia Joiner
Friday, 25 April 2008
Special Correspondent
The Jerry Pippin Show
[SinglePic not found]Angelia – I’m here with Dr. Lynne Kitei at The X-Conference, and this woman has an amazing story. She has an amazing movie out, she’s already had an amazing book, and it’s been great to meet her and visit with her. Now Lynne, what brings you to this conference?
Lynne – Actually, we’re so proud. This has been a labor of love and also a work in progress for the last …for me, it’s been eleven years…but for the documentary, it’s been for the last four years. We just signed with a wonderful distributor, Vanguard Cinema, to get it out internationally. It’s time. It wasn’t really ready before. We’ve added new sightings, new interviews, new data, and now it is just such a joy to be able to share. Astronaut Edgar Mitchell is in it ..he’s wonderful..as well as a 911 police operator who has come forward recently, to say that not only did they get hundreds of calls… but she really confirmed what thousands of other witnesses have shared that they saw during the Mass Sighting. For anybody who doesn’t know what the Mass Sighting was, it was March 13th, 1997, while thousands of people were outside looking purposely at the sky at the Hale-Bopp Comet, a mile to two-mile wide triangular formation of lights appeared above them. Some people saw lights that “seemed to be” attached to something; other people saw a craft; some people saw a boomerang shape; others saw an arrowhead shape. The bottom line, maybe we will never know if it was a parade of different objects throughout the state from as early as 5 PM to 2 in the morning or if it was one object because most people saw it at a very low altitude, going about 30 mph – some people did see it take off at a tremendous speed. Incredible technology, to be sure. But across the board, it was totally, totally silent. A spectacular sighting that not only has become historic in the annals of ufology and certainly unexplained mass sightings but to this day, still unexplained. That cannot be denied.
Angelia – That’s right and I’ve noticed the same thing about witnesses in Stephenville. We’ve had reports of low-flying, one said it was slow, another report says, “Oh, it took off at 3,000 mph,” at least that was Steve Allen, the pilot’s, estimation. So we do seem to have people that see different things even though it’s during the same time period so it does make you wonder, is there more than one type of craft going on at the same time there. Now this documentary was based on your book that came out in 2004, is that right?
Lynne – Correct. I had stayed anonymous. I had no interest or knowledge in this topic at all, before both my husband who is also a physician and I had a very close sighting to our home in 1995. I happened to get pictures of it because it was so extraordinary, I figured nobody is going to believe it unless I document it on film and I wondered for two years what this advanced technology was doing in a private, gated, mountainside community. There was no way it was military. That’s for sure. Underline, underline, underline. And then two years later, lo and behold they came back again and I started documenting them again two months before the Mass Sighting confirmed the next morning by air-traffic controllers at the airport as in Class B airspace, which is restricted airspace. So there is no way again that the military would have been there and not called in to the tower to tell them that they were there and they had no idea what it was as well. And then two months later, the Mass Sighting happened and actually the video, (there are only a handful of videos) and in my video are lights like a giant triangle and again the next morning confirmed by air-traffic controllers did not show up on radar and in Class B airspace once again. So we have had lots of confirmation that something strange was really happening throughout the state. Many similar things by the way, to the Stephenville Sighting with the orbs and the triangular craft.
Angelia – And another similarity would be the total silence. No one heard anything. With something this massive, you would just automatically assume there would be some sort of noise with it and there was nothing, just total silence.
Lynne – Yes, even scientists…I mean this sighting was seen by a plethora and a spectrum of all types of people, from children to teachers to baseball coaches to lawyers, doctors, scientists, military pilots and those that really had a background even in geology and science and optical physicists that saw it, said it was like nothing they had ever seen before. Across the board, every single one. Not only could they not believe it was silent and so immense that it couldn’t stay up due to gravity. It’s quite spectacular when you really start talking in great detail to witnesses that truly have a background in physics and so forth that just couldn’t believe what they were seeing.
Angelia – So with all of the intensive research that you did to find out exactly what might be going on, now you’re convinced, you must be convinced: the name of the movie is, “The Phoenix Lights, We are Not Alone.” You don’t believe we’re alone.
Lynne – Well that’s a good question, Angelia, because I when I started out I did not want to come forward. I stayed anonymous for seven years and once I started looking for a logical explanation for what I had witnessed and photographed, I found a whole new world that opened up to me that ultimately I wrote a 750-page journal and I had to decide what I was going to do with it and I continued to photograph the strange phenomenon and after much soul-searching, in good conscience I couldn’t stick what I had in a drawer. It was too important not to share. So I squeezed down the most important, credible data that I had found to 220 pages. The book is called, “The Phoenix Lights, A Skeptic’s Discovery that We Are Not Alone,” and then started on the documentary and it’s actually helped people transform as well, because once it sinks in – and it took a long time for me, so I can certainly appreciate other skeptics or people that really need to see the data, the data speaks for itself. At this point I am pretty convinced that we are not alone.
Angelia – What was your worry with coming forward? I know you did a lot of interviews and things and you were known as “Dr. X, “so what was your worry about putting your name out?
Lynne – I was very content to just put the photographs and the footage out there so people could see what we saw. That was really what was most important, to raise the consciousness that something really spectacular happened. What I was seeing, and this in ’97 when people started coming forward, at that point people were still into the ridicule and the snickering and the criticism, and some people actually got discredited for coming forward, including Jim Delatosa, one of the investigators, as well as Frances Farwood, I mean she just asked innocently – she didn’t even see the sighting but because so many of her constituents had asked her about it. Why isn’t there an investigation? She mentioned it in a Council meeting and boy, she had a lot of courage because once she did that it just opened Pandora’s Box. I mean, jokes were made in the newspaper, etc, etc. So what I was seeing what would happen to people who came forward was that it wasn’t a pretty picture. And I wanted to do my own homework; I didn’t know what we were dealing with. Was it a hoax, was it military or whatever?
As an educator, and I should add that it’s pretty ironic that I’ve been devoting my life’s work to community education for over thirty years, sharing the reality of vital health issues, when this fell in my lap, I knew I had to educate myself first (I knew nothing about this topic) before I could educate others.. certainly was still looking for a logical explanation…and once I couldn’t find one and went to extreme lengths to do that, at university level, University of Arizona Optical Science Department, Geology, Anthropology, Astronomy Departments, Brooks Institute of Photography and of course not only was I being told that no one ever in history had photographed these global unexplained phenomena prior to, during, and after an historic mass sighting, but that they didn’t know what to do with it! We don’t have the technology yet, to definitively define what these things are. But that doesn’t mean they are not real. You know, it took seventeen centuries for humankind, after the discovery of the microscope, the invention of the microscope to realize there are zillions of tiny organisms all around us, even in our bodies. And just recently, in recent years, they found that every cell has electromagnetic energy around it, which helped us develop the MRI (Magnetic Resonance Imaging) machine to detect disease non-invasively, which is wonderful. Well, just because we can’t see these tiny, living entities, or electromagnetic energy or radio waves or whatever, doesn’t mean they are not real. We might just be looking on the AM dial for an FM frequency.
Angelia – That’s right. I agree with that, totally. Now, we here at The X-Conference really had a treat last night and Dr.Kitei showed the movie for everyone to see and everyone just came away with great comments about how well done this movie is. What’s your goal with putting out this movie? What would you like to see happen?
Lynne – We’re pretty proud. It’s actually being released nationally in all DVD outlets, Blockbuster, Hollywood Video, retail stores, by Vanguard Cinema April 22nd. We’re thrilled – but I just want to get the information out there and hopefully people will actually look at it. One of the other goals is, not only to raise awareness and to educate others but to get it into the classroom. One of the things that really touched me and prompted me to do this – actually it’s not only been my work for thirty years but it’s being distributed on television..AIDS and substance abuse prevention education. This really needs to get into schools too. I realized when I was invited to speak in a middle school while I was deciding whether to leave my job… I was invited to a school where there were over 200 students on the edge of their chairs. You could hear a pin drop. They thirst for this knowledge and I realize that there is a chunk of history missing from our history books. So I hope just as these phenomena are touching one person at a time worldwide, waking them up, not only to their presence but a very important message here as well as to what we’re doing to the planet and to ourselves but hopefully the book and the documentary will start raising awareness and waking people up, to take away that veil of secrecy and educate people to what’s really going on.
Angelia – Because I am also a teacher, just before I left to go to the Ozark Conference I did a little presentation for a fifth-grade classroom for a teacher that’s a friend of mine and I used the power point that I used here for my lecture and I was just amazed at these little fifth-graders, they’re ten years old – they knew who the people were – the slide that I have where we were on Larry King Live, they were like, “Oh there’s Larry King.” They were absolutely enthralled with everything and you’re right, they do thirst for knowledge so I really admire what you’re trying to do because there is nothing in the history books. It’s just something that’s been more or less totally ignored I think and it does seem like all over the world we’re having more and more reports of sightings and the kids need to know this and they need to know how to deal with it, what’s coming up, you know, is it a fearful thing? Is there some way they can get a comfort zone going? Now, I noticed that was brought out in your movie that no one who really saw the Phoenix Lights, they weren’t really fearful, they were more in awe. Is that right?
Lynne – Absolutely, in now over eleven years, there has not been one report. Not one. And we certainly would have heard one of threat, harm, or abduction associated with the Phoenix Lights event and not only will this help others to realize – and I don’t know what they are, I just know that they are and it’s time to get this out in the open and accept it and address it and study it. But for those out there who have no knowledge of this or even seen something or just wondering and curious and I know I went through that and I know that there are others that are going through that as well, searching for an answer for what’s happening here. What we tried to do with the documentary is present the data in a non-threatening way so that they can learn and grow and decide on their own. There really isn’t much out there preparing the public for this, and it’s time that we get prepared. It’s not about “if they’re real” anymore, it’s who’s driving them? And others that are just starting to learn about this need to get to that point in a healthful, safe way and hopefully the documentary will help them.
Angelia – Now this conference, The X-Conference 2008 – this is the fourth year for it and it’s been all about disclosure. Do you feel that the United States is moving any closer to releasing any information?
Lynne – That’s another great question, Angelia, because it’s very interesting – when I came out in ’04 there was still – you know, very much secrecy – I was very fortunate – actually Arizona is a model for other places because I had worked in the media doing medical reporting, a lot of the producers and directors of the news stations knew who I was, I had already established my credibility way before, years before. So they welcomed me with open arms and there is no ridicule or laughing any more in Arizona. They take other people’s reports quite seriously, the residents themselves are going out and looking at the sky with cameras in their hands, hoping that they’ll see it. I can’t tell you how many people say they wish they had seen the Phoenix Lights – they’re excited about it. You mentioned before that there was no fear. In fact, six months before the Mass Sighting, “Independence Day” had come out and we are so ingrained – and we addressed this in the documentary – we’re so ingrained – here were children that saw this big craft coming towards them, were scared initially and they were screaming, “Independence Day!, Independence Day!” But as it got closer – in real time – not only adults but children as well had a calmness take over them. Whoever was doing this obviously wanted to be seen. Those people were looking up at the sky at the Hale-Bopp Comet so whoever did this along the most populated corridor of Arizona wanted to be seen but they also – in real time, were calming people. People were in awe. They were in awe and wonder. They felt blessed. Over and over again, I heard this.
Angelia – Now how do you think they were sending that message? Was it something telepathic? I mean, did people feel like they had a real connection just by looking?
Lynne – They did, and maybe it was telepathic. We had some witnesses who totally forgot about the sighting. We had one family in particular that I remember, that was driving up to Phoenix for a swim meet, from Tucson, and this craft was right over their car and they watched it for some, it was right over them and it was extending over the sides of both highways – it was two miles wide – and they forgot all about it. It wasn’t until six months later when they saw a television report about it, that they realized that they all had a Eureka moment. They were told at the time, they were told telepathically. It’s very interesting. Don’t worry about this. This isn’t to scare you. Don’t worry. And they woke up and the whole sighting was really buried until they saw it on TV. But it’s interesting that they expressed that they had a telepathic message while this was happening.
Angelia – So that seems to me that it would be something that our government would take note of, that really this huge craft and all of these hundreds of people that viewed this thing really took it in pretty well, it didn’t cause chaos, it did cause some phone calls to 911 dispatchers and that sort of thing but more-or-less, they just wanted to know what it was. They weren’t panicking.
Lynne – Yes, exactly. And we have a 911 police operator who just came forward to say not only that they got hundreds of calls that night – she’s been there for twenty-four years – never, ever had anything happen like this and the reports were very consistent. Some people just saw lights. Some people actually saw the craft. It was significant that not only were the police out in helicopters – which is brand new information – we never knew that – but they didn’t know what to do with it. And she also shares that nobody was afraid. Not one person was frightened; they were just curious. They didn’t know what to say when people called.
But just going back for a second, you asked about the government, you know they have a job to do and that’s fine. I usually don’t even go there. This is a grass-roots effort. Closure for me is going to come from the people. Once more and more people become aware and are really open to the possibilities, that’s when disclosure is really going to happen. And now that other countries are coming forward – France, Belgium, and Brazil and Mexico and so forth, have thousands of UFO files. It cannot be denied anymore. There is an undercurrent this past year; I’ve seen a big change. In ’04, it was still a real cover-up kind of situation but this past year with a former governor coming forward, saying he actually saw it – he mocked it back eleven years ago – and offended a lot of people.
Angelia – Yes, that did offend quite a few. I’ve watched news reports on that.
Lynne – Oh yeah. Especially the children because the knew what they saw was unearthly in their estimation and here he was coming out with an aide with an alien mask and making a big joke out of it and not taking it seriously. That’s all they asked, was to take it seriously – that’s all I ask is to take it seriously and look at the data. But now he has come out this last year and said he actually saw it and tried to get answers for it and it definitely wasn’t military in his estimation. Well that’s huge. That’s huge. That is a big step and I think that as more and more credible people come forward – and now we are seeing many retired pilots – we have a pilot that actually is a current commercial pilot but he was willing to come forward anonymously and describes this object right above him and does an excellent job of really putting the flare theory to rest once and for all. That was the only explanation that came forward in eleven years even though they tried after three years after they came out with the flare theory – and there was much insistence: “Well fine, if it was flares let’s re-enact it.” They finally did try to re-enact it March 7, 2000 and it was such a joke. It was a dismal failure. And that really confirmed for me and I think a lot of other people – here was their shot – and it was so different, I mean the flares drift, drop, and they leave huge smoke trails. There is no way that they could have kept a rock-solid equidistant formation of lights formation, completely for hours throughout the entire state. It’s impossible.
Angelia – How do you feel about mainstream media? Do you think that they are taking a more serious look? I mean for so long it seemed that if “UFO” was mentioned, then little green men came along with a chuckle in the same phrase.
Lynne – Absolutely, I mean we see time and time again when we look…when I first came forward they would seem to take it seriously but there was always that little chuckle at the end, that little joke at the end. No more, for Arizona; it’s really a model. But for elsewhere and hopefully it will change. I have seen a the change – the fact that you went on Larry King with the Stephenville sighting was huge, because they started comparing it to the Phoenix Lights – were the Phoenix Lights out again. People started looking at the data, which is so important. That’s why I’m out there, that’s why I came forward. So people could just look at the data because it speaks for itself. And the fact that Larry King took it seriously – and what’s really funny now, I’m glad you brought that up – because people such as yourself are so credible. And it is what it is. And Steve Allen and the other people that were good enough and courageous enough to come forward and just share what they saw, they shared their experience and now when they have debunkers on, they don’t have a case. I mean, you can’t argue with real facts and the data. The data speaks for itself and now more people have cell phones, more people have digital cameras that they’re carrying around with them. They can take pictures and it’s documented and cannot be denied or explained.
Angelia – Well you’re so fortunate that you were able to think on your feet and run and get that camera. I know with one of the witnesses, Claudette Odem, she was talking to me before we did Larry King and she said, “Angelia, I had a cell phone right there in my pocket but I was in such awe of what I was looking at, I just never thought to get it out.”
Lynne – That’s a good point because so many people during the Mass Sighting, some people did take a camera out and tried to take a picture but it was so massive it blocked out the stars. It was night, it was dark. The pictures didn’t turn out. Many more people were just so mesmerized and in awe. This was something that they had no reference for. It was such an experience .. they didn’t have even the thought to get their camera because they were just so in awe of what was happening. And originally, even when I saw it up close in ’95, and I’m staring at these orbs and my first thought was to go get my video camera but it was all the way downstairs and I didn’t know how long it would last. So I tried to take everything in mentally and I’m sure that’s what a lot of people tried to do – so unusual and wondrous and the size, shape, color and here I’m looking and these orbs …there were three distinct – and this is ingrained in my brain – there were three distinct objects that were very closely aligned together, one on top and the others lying underneath. And it didn’t flare although I noticed every other light out there flared and then suddenly, as I’m watching this – now they could have just as easily disappeared, and that would have been that, but I just thought, If I don’t get a picture of this, nobody’s going to believe it. And luckily enough I had my camera hidden away in a closet and I went to grab it and my husband called me back and said one of them was disappearing – and as we watched I didn’t take a picture of this – we were so ingrained in what’s happening – it started to tip, the top orb started to dim like it was on a dimmer switch like it went somewhere after it disappeared but it didn’t move – like it was still there after it disappeared and I was mindful enough to go out onto the balcony and shoot the picture of the lower two orbs. And then again, I was mesmerized. As intently as I was looking at these two bottom orbs, it felt that an intelligence was watching me. It just felt like that. And going through my mind, I thought Who are you? What are you? Do you know that I’m here, I’d love to meet you. Those were the exact thoughts that I thought and the next thing I remember the left bottom orb started to disappear and I quickly shot a picture of that. And…you know, the rest is history.
Angelia – Being an MD, Dr. Kitei had a lot to lose and we’re so fortunate that she did decide to come forward and really educate people. This movie is incredible. I just think everybody should see it. Now tell us again the name of the movie and when it’s coming out and where they can pick it up.
Lynne – Okay thank you, it’s called, “The Phoenix Lights, We Are Not Alone.” It will be available on April 22nd in all the DVD stores: Blockbuster, Hollywood Video, and other stores. Just ask for it. And also on amazon.com and I just have to add, it’s so funny – the book has been #1 under UFOs on amazon.com for over two years. In one week – and that’s when you were on Larry King – in one week, it was #2. And it held strong; it was just the eleventh anniversary, this new version is on there too. It’s on amazon.com if you’d like to get it there and again, the reason I’m doing this, besides being an educator feeling obliged to share this vital issue as I’ve been doing for thirty years for health issues. All I say is just look at it and make up your own mind. Everybody’s coming from a different background, different mindset, so it’s going to take some people longer than others. It took me over seven years for it to really sink in so I totally understand if people just deny it or look for a logical explanation like flares that gives them comfort but that’s okay. Everyone in their own time. But the information is there if they want to look at it and learn and grow. I think we’re in for some very exciting stuff and it’s an amazing, amazing time in history.
Angelia – I feel so fortunate having met you here and I don’t think this will be our last conversation. I think I have a lot that I can learn from you and I look forward to talking to you again and I really appreciate your taking time out to do this interview with me.
Lynne – Certainly. And thank you for helping me share, to let other people know that this is available and for what you’re doing. You are incredible. That’s what it takes. It takes people of credence to come forward and tell their own story. Yes, most things can be explained but there’s a small percentage of things that cannot. Just because we might not have the technology yet to definitively define what they are, doesn’t mean they’re not real. And the more people that do come forward and share make it easier for other people to come forward. That’s what all this is about. That’s when real disclosure will happen.
